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Mon-15-02-2016, 15:01 PM
(Mon-15-02-2016, 14:48 PM)jiml Wrote: Just a thought and I don't know if it's ridiculous...I'm wondering if something is fermenting in your stomach perhaps a yeast infection may be to blame.  Just a thought maybe a long way off the mark  Confused

You don't breathe through your stomach Jim. Cool
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Mon-15-02-2016, 15:07 PM
(Mon-15-02-2016, 15:01 PM)Caroline Wrote:
(Mon-15-02-2016, 14:48 PM)jiml Wrote: Just a thought and I don't know if it's ridiculous...I'm wondering if something is fermenting in your stomach perhaps a yeast infection may be to blame.  Just a thought maybe a long way off the mark  Confused

You don't breathe through your stomach Jim.  Cool

1.5 BAC now

6 hours since tab

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Mon-15-02-2016, 15:11 PM
(Mon-15-02-2016, 15:01 PM)Caroline Wrote:
(Mon-15-02-2016, 14:48 PM)jiml Wrote: Just a thought and I don't know if it's ridiculous...I'm wondering if something is fermenting in your stomach perhaps a yeast infection may be to blame.  Just a thought maybe a long way off the mark  Confused

You don't breathe through your stomach Jim.  Cool

No but reflux comes back from the stomach, is my way of thinking Confused
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Mon-15-02-2016, 15:14 PM
(Mon-15-02-2016, 15:11 PM)jiml Wrote:
(Mon-15-02-2016, 15:01 PM)Caroline Wrote:
(Mon-15-02-2016, 14:48 PM)jiml Wrote: Just a thought and I don't know if it's ridiculous...I'm wondering if something is fermenting in your stomach perhaps a yeast infection may be to blame.  Just a thought maybe a long way off the mark  Confused

You don't breathe through your stomach Jim.  Cool

No but reflux comes back from the stomach, is my way of thinking  Confused

I thought that too, I admit, but I left the thought, as I assume that you do breathe in quite deep before breathing in the Breathalyzer, so the influence of the stomach reflux will be minimal.
I thought that maybe the additives in fumaderm could be the cause.
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Mon-15-02-2016, 15:26 PM (This post was last modified: Mon-15-02-2016, 16:37 PM by jiml.)
Another route is to send an email to Biogen as was suggested to me when I had questions about interactions



Would be worth asking or getting your doctor to ask them  Thumb

Or on the leaflet it does say Patient can email questions to fumaderm at biogenidec.com

If you do and get an answer we would be very interested to hear  Thumb
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Mon-15-02-2016, 16:04 PM
(Mon-15-02-2016, 15:26 PM)jiml Wrote: Another route is to send an email to Biogen as was suggested to me when I had questions about interactions



Would be worth asking or getting your doctor to ask them  Thumb

Or on the leaflet it does say Patient can email questions to fumader at biogenidec.com

If you do and get an answer we would be very interested to hear  Thumb

Don't know about them.
They seem not very well knowledged with what they are dealing. See my post RE: breathalyzer test + fumaderm
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Mon-15-02-2016, 16:46 PM
(Mon-15-02-2016, 15:26 PM)jiml Wrote: Another route is to send an email to Biogen as was suggested to me when I had questions about interactions



Would be worth asking or getting your doctor to ask them  Thumb

Or on the leaflet it does say Patient can email questions to fumaderm at biogenidec.com

If you do and get an answer we would be very interested to hear  Thumb

I have been in touch with biogenidec and they are coming back to me hopefully.
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Mon-15-02-2016, 16:49 PM
(Mon-15-02-2016, 16:46 PM)bazza1965 Wrote:
(Mon-15-02-2016, 15:26 PM)jiml Wrote: Another route is to send an email to Biogen as was suggested to me when I had questions about interactions



Would be worth asking or getting your doctor to ask them  Thumb

Or on the leaflet it does say Patient can email questions to fumaderm at biogenidec.com

If you do and get an answer we would be very interested to hear  Thumb

I have been in touch with biogenidec and they are coming back to me hopefully.

Great stuff Baz be interesting to hear what they say Thumb
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Mon-15-02-2016, 18:42 PM
Honestly, you need to get your own baseline results (an entire day without taking the medication). Also, drug that impacts liver/kidney may impact your blood sugar. Methotrexate does this.
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Mon-15-02-2016, 20:02 PM
Been on the phone to Germany etc, also my hospital nurse advised me to stop taking tab for a few days and monitor . 

If it is furmaderm which is what I expect it is , then I'm afraid it's the end of the road for tab. 

This is a copy of a email sent to us today.

Thank you for question to Medicines Information regarding Fumaderm.
 
Further to our conversation earlier I just want to clarify what was said.
 
Looking at the active ingredient of Fumaderm (dimethylfumarate) and its metabolite (monomethylfumarate), it does seem feasible that when Fumaderm is metabolised and broken down, one of the by-products could be ethanol which is most likely being detected by the breathalyzer. This could explain why the test is giving high readings.
 
It is important to note however, I have not been able to find any reported cases of this occuring, which may be due to a lack of access to information because as you said, it is an unlicensed medicine. This theory is based purely on the pharmacology of the medicine and what could potentially happen.
 
What I would recommend is for your husband to go see his GP/prescriber and explain the situation. They may be able to advise on what the best course of action is and how this will impact his driving. Further information can be found on this link: gov.uk/drug-driving-law

I hope you find this information useful, please feel free to contact Medicines Information again if you have any other queries.
 
Kindest regards,

Pharmacist

Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust
Pharmacy Department | Guy's Hospital | Great Maze Pond | London | SE1 9RT 
Normal hours M-F: 09:00 - 17:30
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