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breathalyzer test + fumaderm
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#31
Tue-16-02-2016, 02:38 AM
(Tue-16-02-2016, 02:18 AM)mataribot Wrote: Establish a baseline by keeping a journal with time of readings without taking the drug and talking the drug. Also, you may try and drink my water throughout the day.

Good idea Mataribot it might help drinking more water during the day Thumb
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#32
Tue-16-02-2016, 08:17 AM
OK , I will try it that today. 

Keep you all updated 

Thanks
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#33
Tue-16-02-2016, 08:27 AM
Had a shower moment this AM (blinding flash of inspiration).
Jim's mention of something 'fermenting' had me thinking. There is a condition called Ketoacidosis. This is where your body produces acetones. Can be caused by low carb diets or diabetes. Chances are the electronic unit can see the acetone and confuses it with alcohol, where by the old fashioned is a chemical reaction and may not react with acetone. As you say the reading increases toward midday, this would follow a change in blood sugar levels. If you are not on a low carb diet it may be worth a quick diabetes check?
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#34
Tue-16-02-2016, 09:02 AM
Well that reads like a very good suggestion of John.

In the mean time I have sent a message to my contact.
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#35
Tue-16-02-2016, 13:24 PM
(Tue-16-02-2016, 08:27 AM)JohnB Wrote: Had a shower moment this AM (blinding flash of inspiration).
Jim's mention of something 'fermenting' had me thinking. There is a condition called Ketoacidosis. This is where your body produces acetones. Can be caused by low carb diets or diabetes. Chances are the electronic unit can see the acetone and confuses it with alcohol, where by the old fashioned is a chemical reaction and may not react with acetone. As you say the reading increases toward midday, this would follow a change in blood sugar levels. If you are not on a low carb diet it may be worth a quick diabetes check?

Hi John,

Starting to think on those lines or jims stomach brewery idea

I had no tablets (ferm) yesterday pm or this morning. The tester was LO at 8am and 10am but at 11.30 its on 0.63 and at 12 noon its now at 0.96 BAc

I am sat a desk had a breakfast the same as yesterday to set a bar beans on toast I am not on a low carb diet.

I am trying arrange a diabetic check now.
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#36
Tue-16-02-2016, 13:29 PM
The workings of the Breathalyzer (why is it not a breathanalyzer?), is based on measuring aethylalcohol in the blood.
Fumaderm contains dimethyl- ánd aethylfumarate. After the process of methylizing or de-aethylizing, you get methylalcohol and aethylalcohol.
My contact is not aware of possible reactions of the breathalyzer on methylalcohol, but it is quite logical that it reacts on aethylalcohol.

So this means that it is very well possible that all Fumaderm users have this reaction, and that the Psorinovo users don't have this reaction. I should have it checked over here somewhere. But don't know of a way how to.
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#37
Tue-16-02-2016, 13:30 PM
(Tue-16-02-2016, 13:24 PM)bazza1965 Wrote:
(Tue-16-02-2016, 08:27 AM)JohnB Wrote: Had a shower moment this AM (blinding flash of inspiration).
Jim's mention of something 'fermenting' had me thinking. There is a condition called Ketoacidosis. This is where your body produces acetones. Can be caused by low carb diets or diabetes. Chances are the electronic unit can see the acetone and confuses it with alcohol, where by the old fashioned is a chemical reaction and may not react with acetone. As you say the reading increases toward midday, this would follow a change in blood sugar levels. If you are not on a low carb diet it may be worth a quick diabetes check?

Hi John,

Starting to think on those lines or jims stomach brewery idea

I had no tablets (ferm) yesterday pm or this morning. The tester was LO at 8am and 10am but at 11.30 its on 0.63 and at 12 noon its now at 0.96 BAc

I am sat a desk had a breakfast the same as yesterday to set a bar beans on toast I am not on a low carb diet.

I am trying arrange a diabetic check now.

Indeed very sensible to have this checked bazza. It certainly is also a possibility.

It may be that both reactions enhance each other.

What exactly is BAc ?
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#38
Tue-16-02-2016, 14:24 PM
(Tue-16-02-2016, 13:30 PM)Caroline Wrote:
(Tue-16-02-2016, 13:24 PM)bazza1965 Wrote:
(Tue-16-02-2016, 08:27 AM)JohnB Wrote: Had a shower moment this AM (blinding flash of inspiration).
Jim's mention of something 'fermenting' had me thinking. There is a condition called Ketoacidosis. This is where your body produces acetones. Can be caused by low carb diets or diabetes. Chances are the electronic unit can see the acetone and confuses it with alcohol, where by the old fashioned is a chemical reaction and may not react with acetone. As you say the reading increases toward midday, this would follow a change in blood sugar levels. If you are not on a low carb diet it may be worth a quick diabetes check?

Hi John,

Starting to think on those lines or jims stomach brewery idea

I had no tablets (ferm) yesterday pm or this morning. The tester was LO at 8am and 10am but at 11.30 its on 0.63 and at 12 noon its now at 0.96 BAc

I am sat a desk had a breakfast the same as yesterday to set a bar beans on toast I am not on a low carb diet.

I am trying arrange a diabetic check now.

Indeed very sensible to have this checked bazza. It certainly is also a possibility.

It may be that both reactions enhance each other.

What exactly is BAc ?
  blood alcohol content which what its measured in at 1pm it was 1.28 ?
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#39
Tue-16-02-2016, 14:46 PM
(Tue-16-02-2016, 14:24 PM)bazza1965 Wrote:
(Tue-16-02-2016, 13:30 PM)Caroline Wrote:
(Tue-16-02-2016, 13:24 PM)bazza1965 Wrote:
(Tue-16-02-2016, 08:27 AM)JohnB Wrote: Had a shower moment this AM (blinding flash of inspiration).
Jim's mention of something 'fermenting' had me thinking. There is a condition called Ketoacidosis. This is where your body produces acetones. Can be caused by low carb diets or diabetes. Chances are the electronic unit can see the acetone and confuses it with alcohol, where by the old fashioned is a chemical reaction and may not react with acetone. As you say the reading increases toward midday, this would follow a change in blood sugar levels. If you are not on a low carb diet it may be worth a quick diabetes check?

Hi John,

Starting to think on those lines or jims stomach brewery idea

I had no tablets (ferm) yesterday pm or this morning. The tester was LO at 8am and 10am but at 11.30 its on 0.63 and at 12 noon its now at 0.96 BAc

I am sat a desk had a breakfast the same as yesterday to set a bar beans on toast I am not on a low carb diet.

I am trying arrange a diabetic check now.

Indeed very sensible to have this checked bazza. It certainly is also a possibility.

It may be that both reactions enhance each other.

What exactly is BAc ?
  blood alcohol content which what its measured in at 1pm it was 1.28 ?

Thanks
And that was today right?
Without having taken the Fumaderm.
That points to a different source.
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#40
Tue-16-02-2016, 14:49 PM
(Tue-16-02-2016, 14:46 PM)Caroline Wrote:
(Tue-16-02-2016, 14:24 PM)bazza1965 Wrote:
(Tue-16-02-2016, 13:30 PM)Caroline Wrote:
(Tue-16-02-2016, 13:24 PM)bazza1965 Wrote:
(Tue-16-02-2016, 08:27 AM)JohnB Wrote: Had a shower moment this AM (blinding flash of inspiration).
Jim's mention of something 'fermenting' had me thinking. There is a condition called Ketoacidosis. This is where your body produces acetones. Can be caused by low carb diets or diabetes. Chances are the electronic unit can see the acetone and confuses it with alcohol, where by the old fashioned is a chemical reaction and may not react with acetone. As you say the reading increases toward midday, this would follow a change in blood sugar levels. If you are not on a low carb diet it may be worth a quick diabetes check?

Hi John,

Starting to think on those lines or jims stomach brewery idea

I had no tablets (ferm) yesterday pm or this morning. The tester was LO at 8am and 10am but at 11.30 its on 0.63 and at 12 noon its now at 0.96 BAc

I am sat a desk had a breakfast the same as yesterday to set a bar beans on toast I am not on a low carb diet.

I am trying arrange a diabetic check now.

Indeed very sensible to have this checked bazza. It certainly is also a possibility.

It may be that both reactions enhance each other.

What exactly is BAc ?
  blood alcohol content which what its measured in at 1pm it was 1.28 ?

Thanks
And that was today right?
Without having taken the Fumaderm.
That points to a different source.

Yes , doesnt seem to be fumaderm causing it.
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