Stelara round two

[jiml]

Fred wrote
I would also recommend anyone to stay on one treatment as long as they can as switching to soon could make things worse.

I have to agree with this, whatever treatment you are on, do give it plenty of time to work, before thinking of changing

[Fred]

Fred wrote
I would also recommend anyone to stay on one treatment as long as they can as switching to soon could make things worse.

I have to agree with this, whatever treatment you are on, do give it plenty of time to work, before thinking of changing

Yes unless you have a serious problem I would say give all treatments a fair crack of the whip.

[Caroline]

My thinking is that although it's the best treatment I have ever had, my body has got immune to it. I read once that we can get immune to some drugs a bit like a rat gets immune to poison, unfortunately for me I think I have reached the end of the line and can no longer trick my body.

That is also what my good old doc said. He said, whatever medication you take, your body will always see this as an intruder and it will do it's best to fight it and find a way to neutralise it. This may be the cause that treatments at a certain point stop their working.

[Fred]

My thinking is that although it's the best treatment I have ever had, my body has got immune to it. I read once that we can get immune to some drugs a bit like a rat gets immune to poison, unfortunately for me I think I have reached the end of the line and can no longer trick my body.

That is also what my good old doc said. He said, whatever medication you take, your body will always see this as an intruder and it will do it's best to fight it and find a way to neutralise it. This may be the cause that treatments at a certain point stop their working.

What a shame our bodies are not able to fight the psoriasis or psoriatic arthritis in the same way.

I suppose in some ways it does, but it gets carried away. That's why I made this thread a few years ago T Cells the soldiers in your body

[Caroline]

My thinking is that although it's the best treatment I have ever had, my body has got immune to it. I read once that we can get immune to some drugs a bit like a rat gets immune to poison, unfortunately for me I think I have reached the end of the line and can no longer trick my body.

That is also what my good old doc said. He said, whatever medication you take, your body will always see this as an intruder and it will do it's best to fight it and find a way to neutralise it. This may be the cause that treatments at a certain point stop their working.

What a shame our bodies are not able to fight the psoriasis or psoriatic arthritis in the same way.

I suppose in some ways it does, but it gets carried away. That's why I made this thread a few years ago T Cells the soldiers in your body

Very nice view of what is indeed happening. Surely our immune system gets carried away. The trick is I think the doctors should look for, is how to repair this problem. Up to now we did not come further than fighting the symptoms or suppressing the immune system.

[Fred]

The trick is I think the doctors should look for, is how to repair this problem. Up to now we did not come further than fighting the symptoms or suppressing the immune system.

That would be nice, but do Doctors and Pharma want us to be rid of psoriasis? We are their customers after all and we keep them in business.

[Caroline]

The trick is I think the doctors should look for, is how to repair this problem. Up to now we did not come further than fighting the symptoms or suppressing the immune system.

That would be nice, but do Doctors and Pharma want us to be rid of psoriasis? We are their customers after all and we keep them in business.  

That is what they call a conspiracy theory, but in my eyes it is just mentioning a very obvious and possible different option.
Yes, I think there are a lot of Doctors who really want to cure their patients......

[D Foster]

The trick is I think the doctors should look for, is how to repair this problem. Up to now we did not come further than fighting the symptoms or suppressing the immune system.

That would be nice, but do Doctors and Pharma want us to be rid of psoriasis? We are their customers after all and we keep them in business.  

That is what they call a conspiracy theory, but in my eyes it is just mentioning a very obvious and possible different option.
Yes, I think there are a lot of Doctors who really want to cure their patients......

Yes Fred I agree I can't do with all the conspiracy theories most are put together by persons who have a lot of time on their hands .

[Fred]

The trick is I think the doctors should look for, is how to repair this problem. Up to now we did not come further than fighting the symptoms or suppressing the immune system.

That would be nice, but do Doctors and Pharma want us to be rid of psoriasis? We are their customers after all and we keep them in business.  

That is what they call a conspiracy theory, but in my eyes it is just mentioning a very obvious and possible different option.
Yes, I think there are a lot of Doctors who really want to cure their patients......

Yes Fred I agree I can't do with all the conspiracy theories most are put together by persons who have a lot of time on their hands .

But they are fun Dave.

[D Foster]

The trick is I think the doctors should look for, is how to repair this problem. Up to now we did not come further than fighting the symptoms or suppressing the immune system.

That would be nice, but do Doctors and Pharma want us to be rid of psoriasis? We are their customers after all and we keep them in business.  

That is what they call a conspiracy theory, but in my eyes it is just mentioning a very obvious and possible different option.
Yes, I think there are a lot of Doctors who really want to cure their patients......

Yes Fred I agree I can't do with all the conspiracy theories most are put together by persons who have a lot of time on their hands .

But they are fun Dave.  

Some of them demonstrate just how stupid their mind works Fred , I do agree though some of the theories are incredible and it does make you wonder just how intelligent they are .