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My Journey to halt/end my psoriasis

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My Journey to halt/end my psoriasis
Caroline Offline
You must hurry if you ever want to catch a chicken...
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Location: In between the tulips
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Treatment: Got back to DMF slow release
#191
Tue-06-07-2021, 14:56 PM
(Tue-06-07-2021, 13:35 PM)Wintrman Wrote:
(Tue-06-07-2021, 11:30 AM)D Foster Wrote: It's the same every where, my dermatologist has just moved my appointment to the second week in February next year.
Just keep going it will happen.
 The endocrinologist says that Psoriasis does help to inflame the psoriasis. However, She comeparaired it like theyy both exist but on different levels in the system. They don't combine together, but they exist on different levels. So.....now for the next step. On the 12th. Getting the MRI on the 12th. 


cheers,
Winterman

The endocrinologist says that Psoriasis does help to inflame the psoriasis
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Huh? Huh You should explain that to me further…..
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Sheila Offline Author
Sheila

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Treatment: Enstilar
#192
Tue-06-07-2021, 18:14 PM
(Tue-06-07-2021, 14:56 PM)Caroline Wrote:
(Tue-06-07-2021, 13:35 PM)Wintrman Wrote:
(Tue-06-07-2021, 11:30 AM)D Foster Wrote: It's the same every where, my dermatologist has just moved my appointment to the second week in February next year.
Just keep going it will happen.
 The endocrinologist says that Psoriasis does help to inflame the psoriasis. However, She comeparaired it like theyy both exist but on different levels in the system. They don't combine together, but they exist on different levels. So.....now for the next step. On the 12th. Getting the MRI on the 12th. 


cheers,
Winterman

The endocrinologist says that Psoriasis does help to inflame the psoriasis
| ^
| |
  - - - 

Huh?  Huh  You should explain that to me further…..
ok....that was written at a time without coffee. Forgive me please? So....The endocrinologist does agree that psoriasis affects the blood sugar. Part of the reason is the stress the body is under while enduring an auto immune disease. When the inflammation goes down, blood sugars will likely go down. Not that mine are horrible at the moment, but she agrees that the psoriasis does and will effect my diabetes. To what degree, she cannot say. Is that a little clearer now?  Smile  So I now just have to be patient until I get to see the dermatologist on December 15. A Christmas present for me??

Cheers,

Wintrman
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Caroline Offline
You must hurry if you ever want to catch a chicken...
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Posts: 26,597
Threads: 113
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Gender: Female
Location: In between the tulips
Psoriasis Score: 3
Psoriatic Arthritis Score: 3
PQOLS: 4
Treatment: Got back to DMF slow release
#193
Tue-06-07-2021, 18:19 PM
(Tue-06-07-2021, 18:14 PM)Wintrman Wrote:
(Tue-06-07-2021, 14:56 PM)Caroline Wrote:
(Tue-06-07-2021, 13:35 PM)Wintrman Wrote:
(Tue-06-07-2021, 11:30 AM)D Foster Wrote: It's the same every where, my dermatologist has just moved my appointment to the second week in February next year.
Just keep going it will happen.
 The endocrinologist says that Psoriasis does help to inflame the psoriasis. However, She comeparaired it like theyy both exist but on different levels in the system. They don't combine together, but they exist on different levels. So.....now for the next step. On the 12th. Getting the MRI on the 12th. 


cheers,
Winterman

The endocrinologist says that Psoriasis does help to inflame the psoriasis
| ^
| |
  - - - 

Huh?  Huh  You should explain that to me further…..
ok....that was written at a time without coffee. Forgive me please? So....The endocrinologist does agree that psoriasis affects the blood sugar. Part of the reason is the stress the body is under while enduring an auto immune disease. When the inflammation goes down, blood sugars will likely go down. Not that mine are horrible at the moment, but she agrees that the psoriasis does and will effect my diabetes. To what degree, she cannot say. Is that a little clearer now?  Smile  So I now just have to be patient until I get to see the dermatologist on December 15. A Christmas present for me??

Cheers,

Wintrman

Ah, yes, I get it now…. Big Grin
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#194
Thu-08-07-2021, 10:24 AM (This post was last modified: Thu-08-07-2021, 10:26 AM by YvonS. Edited 2 times in total.)
Well, i think it's true. Because i also have been to a Endocrinologist a few yoars back because of my fatigue. They found out my adreneral glands weren't working well. I had to less of the hormone Cortisol.
I know when your body is under stress and stress can be positive and negative. Positive is like stress for a wedding and negative stress could be sickness, fever, but also stress of waiting for an apointment.

Anyway, is your body having stress, your Cortisol will rise to get your body in fighting position. Cortisol will free the adrenaline and also the sugar from your muscles to go to your brain (otherwise, in the worst case, if this doesn't happen, you could pass out or get into shock). 

And because your body is in a constant state of stress by your illness, your adreneral glands don't know how to respond anymore, they communicate slower with the pituitary in the brain. So sugar will still rise, but the signal for the insuline doesn't respond as good anymore. The otherway around is also possible, by the slow communication because of the years and years of stress, there could be less sugur to the brain and you feel dizzy all the time.

It's a complex system that's called "Hypothylamus-Pituitary-Adrenal- Axis

So if your inflamitation goes down, so will the body stress go down and your sugar will go down to.
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Sheila

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#195
Thu-08-07-2021, 14:13 PM
(Thu-08-07-2021, 10:24 AM)YvonS Wrote: Well, i think it's true. Because i also have been to a Endocrinologist a few yoars back because of my fatigue. They found out my adreneral glands weren't working well. I had to less of the hormone Cortisol.
I know when your body is under stress and stress can be positive and negative. Positive is like stress for a wedding and negative stress could be sickness, fever, but also stress of waiting for an apointment.

Anyway, is your body having stress, your Cortisol will rise to get your body in fighting position. Cortisol will free the adrenaline and also the sugar from your muscles to go to your brain (otherwise, in the worst case, if this doesn't happen, you could pass out or get into shock). 

And because your body is in a constant state of stress by your illness, your adreneral glands don't know how to respond anymore, they communicate slower with the pituitary in the brain. So sugar will still rise, but the signal for the insuline doesn't respond as good anymore. The otherway around is also possible, by the slow communication because of the years and years of stress, there could be less sugur to the brain and you feel dizzy all the time.

It's a complex system that's called "Hypothylamus-Pituitary-Adrenal- Axis

So if your inflamitation goes down, so will the body stress go down and your sugar will go down to.
Wow! That's alot of information to absorb all at once, in spite of the fact you were brief and direct in your words.  Thanks! I will look into it a bit more. 

Cheers,


Wintrman
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#196
Fri-09-07-2021, 21:18 PM
Interesting information!

My inflammation markers are high and have been for a few years now. Always new psoriasis was part of the reason but now understand why that may be.
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#197
Fri-09-07-2021, 21:34 PM
(Fri-09-07-2021, 21:18 PM)Kat Wrote: Interesting information!

My inflammation markers are high and have been for a few years now.  Always new psoriasis was part of the reason but now understand why that may be.

If your inflammation markers are high, your body is in fysical stress, you know like fighting. And because of this, your cortisol will rise (wich give several symptoms) or if the communication isn't working like it should, your cortisol could be low, giving symptoms like fatgue and joint pain.
But like i said, it's a very complex system, it's no only Corsitol, but also other hormones are involved, like adrenaline, Acth, GnRH, sugar, insuline... but they have a major influence on inflamation (stress). There is more to a fysical condition like proriasis, or artritis, your hormones response as well.   Wink
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#198
Sat-10-07-2021, 13:59 PM
(Fri-09-07-2021, 21:34 PM)YvonS Wrote:
(Fri-09-07-2021, 21:18 PM)Kat Wrote: Interesting information!

My inflammation markers are high and have been for a few years now.  Always new psoriasis was part of the reason but now understand why that may be.

If your inflammation markers are high, your body is in fysical stress, you know like fighting. And because of this, your cortisol will rise (wich give several symptoms) or if the communication isn't working like it should, your cortisol could be low, giving symptoms like fatgue and joint pain.
But like i said, it's a very complex system, it's no only Corsitol, but also other hormones are involved, like adrenaline, Acth, GnRH, sugar, insuline... but they have a major influence on inflamation (stress). There is more to a fysical condition like proriasis, or artritis, your hormones response as well.   Wink

Very good information. Thanks for sharing!
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Kat Offline
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#199
Sat-10-07-2021, 14:02 PM
(Tue-06-07-2021, 13:35 PM)Wintrman Wrote:  The endocrinologist says that Psoriasis does help to inflame the psoriasis. However, She comeparaired it like theyy both exist but on different levels in the system. They don't combine together, but they exist on different levels. So.....now for the next step. On the 12th. Getting the MRI on the 12th. 


Good luck on the MRI, I've never had any issues with them. Hope you get some answers.
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#200
Tue-13-07-2021, 13:40 PM
Well, MRI is done! Step 1 on my journey to better health. Well, getting an appointment with the derm was probably step 1. So here's to step 2 to a healthier, happier me! LOL Next is to talk to my GP to see what he has to say about the results of the MRI, on Wednesday afternoon.

Cheers,

Winterman
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